byron york will join us in a bit. i want to put this in perspective. 85 billion in a budget of $3.8 trillion. a debt of 16 plus trillion. this week, warning of a fiscal trap, last week more concern with golf traps. >> playing with mr. president was pretty cool. he's a wonderful person to be around and we won. he's an avid golfer and so am i. so we went out there and we had a great round of golf with ron and jim and it was a good day. >> a good day. but to herman cain, not exactly good optics. what do you think? >> neil, i think that it is an insult to the american people. the main reason the president is playing golf with respect to the sequestration thing, he does not care. he even said in 2011 that it wasn't going to happen. he has enough time with congress being in recess, he goes and plays golf, to play the blame game. to build a public case. neil, we do not have a leader in the white house. we have a politician in the white house who is more concerned about his public image because it has worked in the past. now,